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Saturday, December 02, 2006

People in Hell Want Ice Water Too

Those coming from thinkinaboutstuff, THIS is the post you are looking for.

So the Muslims now want their own prayer rooms after the debacle at from
Flight 300 where the Imam's were taken off the airplane.

Airport officials said Friday they will consider setting aside a private area for prayer and meditation at the request of imams concerned about the removal of six Muslim clerics from a US Airways flight last week.

Steve Wareham, director of Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, said other airports have "meditation rooms" used for prayers or by passengers who simply need quiet time.

A group of Somali clerics met with airport officials Friday and said they would attract less attention if they had a private area for prayer. Devout Muslims pray five times daily, facing the holy city of Mecca.

"When we pray, we don't want a problem. We don't want what happened last week," said Abdulrehman Hersi, an imam at Darul-Quba mosque in Minneapolis, referring to six clerics who were barred from a US Airways flight in Minneapolis after drawing the concern of some passengers.

Now, I do not have a problem with a room for all to pray, an interfaith room such as Albany has, a prayer room like Liverpool has, an airport chapel as many large airports have... but not one "just" for Muslims. Otherwise these airports better be prepared to make synagogue only rooms, a separate prayer room for every single faith being practiced in the US.

My biggest problem is the pretense that it was the Muslims "prayers" that caused this trouble.

Lets go over the facts of the matter, instead of deliberate attempt to lead people to believe it was the prayers that did it.

Excerpts from Pauline:

Most importantly, the public needs to be told that there was a series of” many suspicious events”, which were observed by the crew and several passengers. The captain made his decision based on all of these events and not just one note. . Their attorney is trying to turn this into a “right to pray in a public place issue” and it is not that at all. He is claiming they were removed from the plane for praying in public. And inferring it is wrong to discriminate against them for this. Claiming that we Americans don’t understand their religion and their need to pray everyday at specific times, he stated that WE need to be more tolerant of their religious beliefs. He made a statement trying to draw an analogy of the right to carry a bible or a rosary on a plane.---

Their seating arrangement was very unusual and it raised a red flag to the crew. Only one of the 6 sat in first class, with the telephone, although they were all together. The rest sat in coach. The second one sat in the first row of coach in front of me; I think another mid way back in the plane and the rest in the very rear of the plane. They were there early enough to get seats together but chose to spread out.---

Another strange thing the crew noticed was the way they boarded. When they made the call for first class passengers the other 5 boarded as well.---

One of the passengers sitting close to them in the rear of the plane overheard their Conversatioin and became very nervous. I believe he may have been the one who sent the note up to the crew and captain. I was told later that there was mention of Ala and the word terrorists in their conversation.---

A woman passenger, who understood their language, indicated they were making slanderous remarks about the American people, thinking no one would know what they were saying. This raised concern also.---

The most suspicious thing, which has not yet been mentioned on the news, and needs to come out publicly, is the fact that the man in the first class front row asked for and was given a seat belt extender as did one of the men in the rear of the plane. This can be confirmed by the male steward serving first class on the flight. The strange and totally unexplainable thing about this request by them was the fact that neither of these men was fat enough to even need an extender strap for their seatbelt in the first place and the crew noticed that they not even put it on but placed them on the floor by their feet. Why ask for them and not use them, especially if you don’t even need one?---

It was a totally detachable strap about 18 in length that could easily be used as a noose around a flight attendant or passenger’s neck to create a hostage situation on the plane. With one in the back of the plane and another in the front and their people positioned in between they were perfectly positioned to take control of the entire plane with out any weapons. The captain, crew, police and FBI all obviously also felt this was a real possibility when combined with the note passed to them by an obviously shaken man who had heard some of their conversation. Put all of this together along with the fact that the ticket agent at the gate was not comfortable and a couple of other passenger observations it added up to a situation of possible danger.

As I show here, there are 7 signs to look for terrorist activity. I also show in that previous post other airline personnel from other airlines saying they would have done the exact same thing.

So ask for a prayer room, an interfaith prayer room, fine, other airports have them, but do not lie and try to pretend that prayer was the reason the Imam's were taken from the plane, do not expect people to sit back and allow suspicious activity to go unreported, do not expect a room just for Muslims to pray and do not expect airlines to be intimidated into not taking action. It won't happen. The days of sitting back and taking it are over. Passengers will not only report strange actions, airlines will act on it and should another plane be hijacked, passengers will not sit and do nothing, ever again.

On Dec. 22, 2001, Reid was subdued by passengers when he attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoe aboard American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely.

As Captain Ed says:

I pray every time I get on a plane, and usually at least once during the flight. I somehow manage to constrain myself to praying silently and doing a sign of the Cross. I don't insist on being disruptive, calling attention to myself, or conducting deliberate provocations. I don't get out of my seat during the boarding process to confer with other Catholics about the war on terror. Given the nature of my prayers, I don't loudly pray to Jesus that he keep the plane from crashing in the gate area of the airport.

If I did those things, I would also expect the airport to set aside a special room for me. It would be called a holding cell, and I'd deserve it. Maybe the local Muslims ought to consider that when they make this request.

The Imams may want preferential treatment, but people in hell want ice water it is said, and they have every bit as much chance of getting it.

Others discussing this:
Jihad Watch.

Tracked back by:
If The Iraq Study Group Retreats, We Cannot Follow from Rightwing Guy...
What the MSM swept under the Muslim prayer rugs at from Tel-Chai Nation...