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Tuesday, December 19, 2006

A Couple Points about Iran [Updated]

[Updates Below]

In the last few weeks I have done quite a few posts on Iran, Ahmadinejad, the Holocaust denial conference and the comparisons between the lunatic Ahmadinejad and Hitler and I have received some very interesting responses, with quite a few theories on why people either deny the Holocaust or simply cannot bring themselves to delve too deeply into it.... I will get into those theories below.

First though, I ran across an article in Ynet News showing that I am not the only one making comparisons between Ahmadinejad and Hitler, about the present day events and 1938 and one that possibly answers my question of who is going to stand up and deal with Iran before it becomes too late and ends up in a world war.

Opposition leader speaks to 60 ambassadors in Tel Aviv, says Ahmadinejad, like Hitler, is a problem for Jews but also for rest of world. Says Iran seeks nuclear armed thousand- year Islamic Reich. Ends on optimistic note, saying process can be stopped in 1,000 days.

The Iranian bomb can be stopped, and in 1,000 days – or so claimed opposition leader and Likud chairman Benjamin Netanyahu in a meeting with some 60 foreign envoys in Tel Aviv on Tuesday.

Netanyahu urged the diplomats to take action against the Iranian threat and not sit on the sidelines on the issue, saying that the longer the stick used to bar Iran from developing the bomb, the better the world's chances are of not seeing such a bomb used.

When has a world leader openly called for genocide, Netanyahu asked the audience, adding that such a thing goes against the moral principles the world is based on.

"The year is 1938 andIran is Germany," said Netanyahu, reiterating his message from last month in Los Angeles. Iran wants a nuclear weapon, he said, but this time the Jews have a country and also a responsibility.

My country is threatened, said Netanyahu to the delegates, but so are your countries – Ahmadinejad is a problem for Jews, like Hitler was, but he is also a problem for the entire world. Iran is pursuing a fanatical fantasy of a nuclear armed thousand-year Islamic Reich armed with nuclear weapons, which it will use, said Netanyahu. We must deny them this weapon, he said, you have the power to stop it and it can be done in 1,000 days.

Considering Israel would be the first country hit with an Iranian nuclear weapon, it is understandable that they would be the first to stand up and say, ENOUGH!!!

Enough sitting back and hoping that this will go will not.

Enough talk about sanctions that will be so watered down that they will not be effective... we cannot wait.

Enough is enough.

Netanyahu sees the similarities between present day Iran and 1938 Germany, between Ahmadinejad and Hitler and one particularly naive commenter of mine said he saw no comparison, he obviously did not actually READ the Never Forget post I did, I showed the actual words from Ahmadinejad right next to the almost identical words from Hitler in public speaking events. I also posted the timline of events from 1933 until 1945 and how one man, with his rhetoric, did in fact create conditions which brought about World War II.

I showed in Blame it on the Jews the same words from Ahmadinejad about how wiping the Jews out right next to Hitlers statements about exterminating the Jewish people and both of these mad lunatics blaming it on the Jews. YID with LID also points out that even the Palestinian president, Abba's has indeed denied the holocaust happened and blamed the Jews, and this is the "moderate" in the midst.

Yesterday I asked How much do YOU know about the Holocaust? I received a tremendous response via email asking if it could be crossposted, I will say now... anyone, take what you want from it, use it... REMIND people of what happened.

I pointed out how so many people, when asked about the Holocaust, will say they know about it, "a bunch of Jews were killed by Hitler"....this is what they think the Holocaust was.

People do not know that millions of others, not Jewish were murdered also. They either never learned it, ignored it all or simply forgot what was too unpleasant to remember.

Which brings me to a comment from Jason over at Superhero Historians in my comments section, where he nails this right on the head.

Unfortunately, many people probably don't want to know the details of what happened. Of course, that is a far different type of denial than the Holocaust deniers preach. I was very uncomfortable reading this post, but these accounts need to be read. I visited Dachau years ago, that was uncomfortable, but I think it was necessary. We live in a world which tends to turn a blind eye towards things until too late.


It is disturbing, it is uncomfortable to see but it is NECESSARY because if you do not bother to learn the truth, to understand exactly what happened, you will never be knowledgable enough to SEE the comparisons between Ahmadinejad and Hitler. To see the similiarities between what is happening now and what happened in 1938.

Some people simply do not have the stomach to look into it, to read about it, to learn.... those are the same people that will never understand how important it is to stop Ahmadinejad in his tracks...FAST.

For Hitler it started with a simply book called Mein Kampf where he made it clear his ultimate goal was to get rid of the Jews.

Ahmadinejad is bolder... he has been SO emboldened he states it outright at public events.

Ahmadinejad-August 2, 2006: "Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate cease-fire must be implemented." (as quoted by Iranian TV)

In the Summer of 1939 Himmler summoned Auschwitz Kommandant Höss to Berlin and tells him, "The Führer (Adolph Hitler) has ordered the Final Solution of the Jewish question. We, the SS, have to carry out this order...I have therefore chosen Auschwitz for this purpose."

These two statements alone says it all.... to Ahmadinejad it is called the "main solution" to Hitler it was the "Final solution".

Is that clear enough?

I asked yesterday: Haven't we been here here before?

Today I will ask: If one continues to walk in a circle, how many times will we go around this circle before we notice we are seeing the same scenery over and over again and realize we have been down this path before?

Then we have those that do not believe one man, Ahmadinejad can, in fact, start a world war.... I could point out that no one thought one man, Hitler, could either, but I have already pointed that let me put it another way.

With all the tensions and conflict going on right this very moment in the Middle East, Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan... we have Syria with very close ties to Iran, causing trouble in Lebanon, we have Iran supplying weapons with manufacturing dates of 2006 to the Iraq insurgents as well as having Hizbullah (where it has already been established to have direct ties to Syria and Iran) in Lebanon AND Iraq....... Iran's Ahmadinejad has already created and continues to create the perfect atmosphere FOR another world war. We also have Iran committing to help Hammas with money. In fact, every single problem in the Middle East that is going on right now, Iran has his fingers and influence in.

As per The Moderate Voice:

Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh received a promise from Iran of extensive economic aid, cash, military cooperation, and also good news, from his perspective.

Lower your profile, calm the situation, the Iranians told Haniyeh. In four months we're going to issue a statement that will dramatically change the strategic balance in the Middle East.

According to Israeli intelligence, the Iranians have promised to make an important announcement at the next Persian new year, which begins the third week in March 2007.

The Moderate Voice then goes on to voice the very same concerns about that statement as I am having.

We're all waiting for Iran to announce that it has developed a nuclear bomb of course. This could be it. On the other hand, it could be something different and it could be mere gossip.

However, assuming that there is at least some truth to it... it doesn't sound good to me. If Iran announces something that will change the balance in the region, it can't possibly be good for Israel nor for the West and is, as such, always reason for concern.

What the world needs to realize is that Ahmadinejad wants a world war and will continue to act in a manner that will bring it about. The world needs to act as one. The international community needs to put a stop to this madman before he can do any more damage...not tomorrow, not next month, not next year.

He needs to be stopped right now.

[UPDATE] In going through a few more links, there is more for me to add here.

Hat Tip to Cox & Forkum for the Memri link. Iran's well thought out, deliberate plan.

When we, at The Middle East Media Research Institute, collect and analyze the statements made by Ahmadinejad and others in the Iranian regime, we can distinguish two major goals, both of which lead to the same conclusion: the Iranian regime's Holocaust denial is not a manifestation of irrational hatred, but a premeditated and cold-blooded instrument to achieve its goals.

Denial of Israel's Legitimacy

The first of these goals is the attempt to deny any legitimacy to the creation and continued existence of the State of Israel as a safe haven for the Jews after the Holocaust. In order to achieve this goal, he proclaims that no Holocaust occurred, and that if Jews were indeed harmed in World War II - a claim that requires thorough and "objective" research - this was no different than the experience of others in World War II. At any rate, Ahmadinejad and other top Iranian officials claim that this "myth" cannot justify the establishment of Israel in Palestine.

Elimination of the Zionist Entity, i.e. Israel

The second goal is - as often proclaimed by Ahmadinejad - to "wipe Israel off the map." His Holocaust denial is therefore planned, intentional, and premeditated. He is aware that as long as the world remembers the Holocaust, it will resist any new attempt to perpetrate another genocide against the Jews. Thus, eradicating the memory of the Holocaust is essential in order to achieve his goal.


In order for Ahmadinejad to bring his plans to fruition, however, he has to demonize the Jews and the State of Israel. Demonization is a necessary precondition for genocide. As we well know, Hitler first engaged in a major campaign of demonization of the Jews before actually murdering them en masse. Ahmadinejad and the Iranian regime are taking the same path, and are conducting a similar virulent, antisemitic campaign of demonization.

To this end, Iranian state-controlled television produces various TV series dedicated to the demonization of Jews. These include classic blood libels, depicting Jews as using the blood of non-Jewish children to bake their Passover matzos, and as kidnapping non-Jewish children to steal their body parts. Jews are reduced to sub-human levels, depicted as pigs and apes. They are accused of persecuting the Prophet Muhammad in voodoo ritualistic scenes, and as tormenting a historic figure reminiscent of Jesus on the Cross. All these TV series exist alongside others that deny the Holocaust.

Again, it should be stressed that all these phenomena are interrelated, and are state-directed at the highest level. It is most indicative that Ahmadinejad's first public appearance after coming to power was made before television producers.

All this is done in order to achieve the goal of demonization of Jews and Israel, which, as I mentioned earlier, is vital for their elimination. However, it is not possible to demonize a people as long as it is viewed as a victim of the Holocaust. Therefore, as long as the Jews are perceived as victims of the Holocaust, this demonization cannot take root. Holocaust denial is thus vital, in order to wipe out the image of the Jews as victims.

This is the reason why these three elements - Holocaust denial, the elimination of the State of Israel, and demonization of the Jews - are constantly present in statements by Ahmadinejad and other senior Iranian officials.

The paragraph in red is shown in full in the video I first showed you in my post Spoonfed Hatred, Morning, noon and Night.

Watch the full video... I cannot stress this enough. In the video above if you continue watching it through, you will see the excerpts of the actual footage from Iranian television. The exact excerpts that are described above, from the matzo's being made of Muslim childrens blood to commercials on Iranian television saying that Jews steal body parts (eyes in the video) of the Muslims. This is what they are taught from birth to adulthood. Kids are shown cartoons of becoming suicide bombers. WATCH THE VIDEO.

This is a well thought out, deliberate plan, just as Hitler's was.

For those Islamist extremists that are not denying the holocaust, they are hailing Hitler as a hero.

It HAS already begun... the question should now be, how do we stop it?

From the LA Times: Why they deny the holocaust, written by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, AYAAN HIRSI ALI, a Somali immigrant who served in the parliament of the Netherlands until earlier this year, is the author of "Infidel," an autobiography to be published in February.
December 16, 2006

In order for me to be admitted to the university I wanted to attend, I needed to pass three courses: a language course, a civics course and a history course. It was in the preparatory history course that I, for the first time, heard of the Holocaust. I was 24 years old at that time, and my half-sister was 21.

In those days, the daily news was filled with the Rwandan genocide and ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia. On the day that my half-sister visited me, my head was reeling from what happened to 6 million Jews in Germany, Holland, France and Eastern Europe.

I learned that innocent men, women and children were separated from each other. Stars pinned to their shoulders, transported by train to camps, they were gassed for no other reason than for being Jewish.

I saw pictures of masses of skeletons, even of kids. I heard horrifying accounts of some of the people who had survived the terror of Auschwitz and Sobibor. I told my half-sister all this and showed her the pictures in my history book. What she said was as awful as the information in my book.

With great conviction, my half-sister cried: "It's a lie! Jews have a way of blinding people. They were not killed, gassed or massacred. But I pray to Allah that one day all the Jews in the world will be destroyed."

She was not saying anything new. As a child growing up in Saudi Arabia, I remember my teachers, my mom and our neighbors telling us practically on a daily basis that Jews are evil, the sworn enemies of Muslims, and that their only goal was to destroy Islam. We were never informed about the Holocaust.

Later, as a teenager in Kenya, when Saudi and other Persian Gulf philanthropy reached us, I remember that the building of mosques and donations to hospitals and the poor went hand in hand with the cursing of Jews. Jews were said to be responsible for the deaths of babies and for epidemics such as AIDS, and they were believed to be the cause of wars. They were greedy and would do absolutely anything to kill us Muslims. If we ever wanted to know peace and stability, and if we didn't want to be wiped out, we would have to destroy the Jews. For those of us who were not in a position to take up arms against them, it was enough for us to cup our hands, raise our eyes heavenward and pray to Allah to destroy them.

Western leaders today who say they are shocked by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's conference this week denying the Holocaust need to wake up to that reality. For the majority of Muslims in the world, the Holocaust is not a major historical event that they deny. We simply do not know it ever happened because we were never informed of it.

The total number of Jews in the world today is estimated to be about 15 million, certainly no more than 20 million. On the other hand, the world's Muslim population is estimated to be between 1.2 billion and 1.5 billion. And not only is this population rapidly growing, it is also very young.

What's striking about Ahmadinejad's conference is the (silent) acquiescence of mainstream Muslims. I cannot help but wonder: Why is there no counter-conference in Riyadh, Cairo, Lahore, Khartoum or Jakarta condemning Ahmadinejad? Why are the 57 members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference silent on this?

Could the answer be as simple as it is horrifying: For generations, the leaders of these so-called Muslim countries have been spoon-feeding their populations a constant diet of propaganda similar to the one that generations of Germans (and other Europeans) were fed — that Jews are vermin and should be dealt with as such? In Europe, the logical conclusion was the Holocaust. If Ahmadinejad has his way, he shall not want for compliant Muslims ready to act on his wish.

The world needs to be informed again and again about the Holocaust — not only in the interest of the Jews who survived and their offspring but in the interest of humanity.

This is why I continue to pound on this issue....This is why it is SO important for as many people as possible to be taught or reminded of the Holocaust. The only way for history to not be repeated is to make sure it is known and understood, so that people can see the signs.

It has already begun and I will ask again.... WHO will stand up and stop it before we reach the point of no return and before we are in the midst of a massive world war that will be far worse than any war this world has ever seen.

We have been here before and I, for one, do not wish to go there again.

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