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Wednesday, November 21, 2007

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton Spar Some More

We already know and have discussed the fact that Hillary Clinton isn't inevitable to win the Democratic nomination and the battle of "electability" has begun in earnest between her and Barack Obama.

Clinton about Obama:

Hillary Clinton’s attack on his qualifications. Making an economic speech in Knoxville, Iowa, earlier that day, the New York senator had touted her own know-how, saying that “there is one job we can’t afford on-the-job training for — that’s the job of our next president.” Her aides confirmed that she was referring to Obama.


Obama about Clinton:

Pressed to respond, Obama offered a zinger feathered with amused disdain: “My understanding was that she wasn’t Treasury secretary in the Clinton administration, so I don’t know exactly what experiences she’s claiming.”

Everybody laughed, including Obama.


The fact of the matter is neither one of them have enough experience to run a country.

Hillary is a panderer that cannot commit to one stance and goes where ever the polls tell her to whether it is a good idea or bad and Barack thinks that living in a foreign country when he was a child gives him some hint about how foreign policy should be handled.

Both are laughable.

Maureen Dowd points out that the only areas where Hillary does have experience in were dismal failures when she was in the White House:

Her Democratic rivals had meekly gone along, accepting her self-portrait as a former co-president who gets to take credit for everything important Bill Clinton did in the ’90s. But she was not elected or appointed to a position that needed Senate confirmation. And the part of the Clinton administration that worked best — the economy, stupid — was run by Robert Rubin. Hillary did not show good judgment in her areas of influence — the legal fiefdom, health care and running oppo-campaigns against Bill’s galpals.

The Clinton campaign in Iowa is in a panic. Obama has been closing the gap with women and her ginning up of gender has lost her male votes. Speaking around Iowa this week, Obama made the point that his exotic upbringing, family in Kenya and years as an outsider allow him to see the world with more understanding, and helped form his judgment about resisting the Iraq war.


IBD points out something else that Hillary's so called experience would translate into:

Yet government spending is clearly what Hillary's White House job experience would translate into.


Time indicates that the recent polls showing Obama taking the lead from Clinton are not the only indicators that his "surge" in Iowa is real:

It's significant then that Obama's message seems to be catching on among the notoriously pragmatic Iowans. By 55% to 33%, Iowans—who will take part in a Jan. 3 caucus that will be the first test for Democratic presidential candidates—said they favored "new direction and new ideas" over "strength and experience," a new Washington Post/ABC poll found. In July the ratio was 49% to 39%. After trailing Clinton in the state most of the year, Obama now leads by 4 points, and he has eliminated her advantage among women voters and older voters. He is also dead even with her when voters are asked whom they trust more to handle the economy, Social Security and the war in Iraq.


The fact is Hillary has quite a bit of baggage as well as past scandals, recent fumbles on simple questions and has been caught planting questions in her audiences so she doesn't have to address anything and give a direct answer that isn't pre-scripted.

Immigration is also going to play a big part after the Democratic and Republicans parties pick their nominee for the 2008 elections and whether it is Obama or Clinton, both have shown they are very weak on that issue and the GOP will have a solid platform to stand on against them.

Hillary showed her weakness in the Democratic debate where she was for Spitezer's plan to give illegal aliens a driver's license, then changed her mind and claimed she didn't support it (within 3 minutes), then over the following two weeks, flip flopped 4 more times until Spitzer shelved the idea and then she came out against it firmly.

Barack Obama, as shown in the time piece, linked above, is just as weak on illegal immigration by making statements like this:

By the time Obama moves on to immigration ("These are people who are trying to make a living. I understand they broke the law. But let me tell you something: if the minimum wage in Canada was $100 an hour ...")


The Republicans heard Americans loud and clear with the Immigration reform debacle not long ago and have stated that they heard, they understood and they will now work to enforce the laws, secure our borders and deal with those issues before attempting to reform and create new laws.

The Democrats will never understand that message because they depend on illegals fraudulently obtaining voters registrations and voting for them because they are on the side of amnesty. That is the only reason that Democratic politicians fight so hard about having to have an ID to be able to vote.

Hillary encourages the illegal immigrants to sneak into the country and Barack excuses them.

Both of them will suffer for those stances in 2008.

Neither one has the experience in Foreign policy and they are both on th wrong side of the illegal immigrant issue.

They also have both pinned their hopes on Iraq failing and since it is now seeing very public progress, they can try to ignore it as much as they wnt,but the Republicans that backed the surge and the new strategies would be very smart to make sure the public remembered who fougth the hardest for victory and who fought for failure and voted for defeat.

Taxes we can discuss another day, because everyone knows which party would raise their taxes and which party would keep tax cuts in place.

On every issue of importance, neither Hillary nor Barack have the experience to handle our great country.

Related:
Paul vs Clinton, the court case being heard in the LA Superior Court, is explained in two videos over at YouTube, it explains the case against Hillary and remember the whole time you watch these, that Hillary tried to deny that she even knew Peter Paul while omitting all contributions from him from her FEC filings.

First video here.

(10 minutes)


Second video here.

(4 minutes)


The viral frenzy surrounding the "rough cut" trailer for the documentary "Hillary Uncensored" continues. The trailer has been Google's top-ranked video since October 8, and has been seen more than 3 million times online.

Watch them.

It is not often a politicians is captured on tape conducting their illegal activities.



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