Via RNC Research and GOP.com:
LIE #1: OBAMA CLAIMED HE DID NOT PROPOSE THE SEQUESTER
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed That The Sequester Was Not Something That He Proposed. OBAMA: “First of all, the sequester is not something I proposed, it’s something that Congress proposed. It will not happen.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: Obama’s Statement Was “By Far The Biggest Gaffe – Or Deliberate Evasion – Of The Evening…” “By far the biggest gaffe-or deliberate evasion-of the evening was made by Mr. Obama when he denied paternity for the sequester defense cuts now set for 2013 and said they ‘will not happen.’ Mr. Obama’s aides rushed out after the debate to say he meant to say the cuts ‘should not happen.’ But the truth is that Mr. Obama has been using the fear of huge defense cuts as a political strategy to force Republicans to accept a tax increase. As Bob Woodward describes in his recent book, Mr. Obama and the White House helped to devise the defense sequester strategy-no matter the actual risk to defense.” (“Commanders In Chief,” The Wall Street Journal, 10/23/12)
THE FACTS: White House Senior Adviser David Plouffe “Softened The Obama Administration’s Language On The Sequester After President Obama Insisted That It Would Not Happen.” “White House senior adviser and 2008 campaign manager David Plouffe softened the Obama administration’s language on the sequester after President Obama insisted that it would not happen. ‘No one wants it to happen,’ Plouffe told reporters after the third and final debate on Monday. Reporters pointed out to him that Obama had vowed during the debate that the sequester would not happen – a much stronger statement. ‘Listen, you talk to Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill. No one thinks it should happen. It was designed so what the parties have to do,’ Plouffe said.” (Reid J. Epstein, “Plouffe Softens Sequester Language,” Politico’s 44, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: “In Fact, The Idea May Have Come In Part From Obama’s Current Chief Of Staff, Jack Lew.” “In fact, the idea may have come in part from Obama’s current chief of staff, Jack Lew. The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward reported in his book ‘The Price of Politics’ that Lew, then-Office of Management and Budget director, and White House Legislative Affairs Director Rob Nabors broached the idea of a defense sequester as a threat to Republicans during negotiations over raising the debt ceiling.” (Josh Gerstein and Darren Samuelsohn, “Fact-Checking The Third Presidential Debate,” Politico, 10/22/12)
LIE #2: OBAMA MISLED ON VETERAN UNEMPLOYMENT
THE CLAIM: Obama Misrepresented Veteran Unemployment Since He Took Office. OBAMA: “The first lady has done great work with an organization called Joining Forces putting our veterans back to work. And as a consequence, veterans’ unemployment is actually now lower than general population, it was higher when I came into office. So those are the kinds of things that we can now do because we’re making that transition in Afghanistan.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: “The Rate Among Veterans Of America’s Most Recent Wars – In Iraq And Afghanistan – Is Currently Higher Than That Of The General Population.” “The rate among veterans of America’s most recent wars – in Iraq and Afghanistan – is currently higher than that of the general population. The president also may have misled some listeners when he said the veterans’ rate ‘was higher when I took office.’ Higher than what? The rate for veterans was higher then than it is now, but it was lower than the rate for the general population both then and now.” (“False Claims In Final Debate,” FactCheck.org, 10/23/12)
LIE #3: OBAMA DISTORTED GOV. ROMNEY’S PLAN TO DEAL WITH PAKISTAN OVER BIN LADEN
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed Gov. Romney Suggested That The U.S. Should Ask Pakistan For Permission Prior To Going After Osama Bin Laden. OBAMA: “When it comes to going after Osama bin Laden, you said, well, any president would make that call. But when you were a candidate in 2008 — as I was — and I said, if I got bin Laden in our sights, I would take that shot, you said we shouldn’t move heaven and earth to get one man, and you said we should ask Pakistan for permission.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: “That’s Not True.” “That’s not true. Romney said taking unilateral action in Pakistan should be an option, but criticized Obama for publicly talking about it, saying, ‘we keep our options quiet.’” (“False Claims In Final Debate,” FactCheck.org, 10/23/12)
LIE #4: OBAMA LIED ABOUT GOV. ROMNEY’S EDUCATION PLAN
THE CLAIM: Obama Implied That Romney And Ryan Would Cut The Education Budget. OBAMA: “But more importantly, it is true that in order for us to be competitive, we’re going to have to make some smart choices right now. Cutting our education budget — that’s not a smart choice. That will not help us compete with China. Cutting our investments in research and technology — that’s not a smart choice.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: Ryan’s Budget Has Not “Singled Out Education Programs For Reduction Or Elimination.” “Though Ryan’s budget has called for $5.3 trillion cuts in federal spending over the next decade, he has not singled out education programs for reduction or elimination, according to Politifact.” (Tim Mullaney, Gregory Korte, Tom Vanden Brook, Paul Davidson, and Alan Gomez, “Fact Check: Claims About Syria, Libya, Iraq Scrutinized,” USA Today, 10/23/12)
THE FACTS: “Romney Insists That He Is Not Going To Cut Education Programs.” “Romney insists that he is not going to cut education programs. ‘I’m not going to cut education funding. I don’t have any plan to cut education funding and grants that go to people going to college. I’m planning on continuing to grow, so I’m not planning on making changes there,’ Romney said in his Oct. 3 debate with Obama.” (Tim Mullaney, Gregory Korte, Tom Vanden Brook, Paul Davidson, and Alan Gomez, “Fact Check: Claims About Syria, Libya, Iraq Scrutinized,” USA Today, 10/23/12)
LIE #5: OBAMA OMITTED HIS SNUB OF NETANYAHU
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed To Have “Created The Strongest Military And Intelligence Cooperation” Between Israel And The United States. OBAMA: “We have created the strongest military and intelligence cooperation between our two countries in history.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: Obama “Declined To Meet With Netanyahu Last Month” And “Said He Would ‘Block Out Any Noise’ From The Israelis.” “Nevertheless, the event also happens at a low point in the political relationship between Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Obama declined to meet with Netanyahu last month when Israeli leader visited the U.S. And asked by Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes whether he felt pressure on Iran from Israel, Obama said he would ‘block out any noise’ from the Israelis.” (Tim Mullaney, Gregory Korte, Tom Vanden Brook, Paul Davidson, and Alan Gomez, “Fact Check: Claims About Syria, Libya, Iraq Scrutinized,” USA Today, 10/23/12)
LIE #6: OBAMA’S FAILED STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT
THE CLAIM: Obama Tried To Deny That He Proposed A Status Of Forces Agreement That Would Have Left Thousands Of Troops In Iraq. ROMNEY: “You and I agreed, I believe, that there should have been a ‘Status of Forces’ agreement.” OBAMA: “That’s not true.” ROMNEY: “Oh you didn’t? You didn’t want a ‘Status of Forces’ agreement?” OBAMA: “What I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.” ROMNEY: “I’m sorry. You actually — there was an effort on the part of the president to have a status of forces against, and I concurred in that and said we should have a number of troops that stayed on. That was something I concurred with. That was your posture and mine as well. You thought it should have been 5,000 troops and I thought it should have been more troops.” OBAMA: “Governor, this was done a few weeks ago. A few weeks ago you indicated we should still have troops in Iraq.” ROMNEY: “No, I didn’t. Sorry, I indicated that you failed to put in place a status of forces agreement at the end of the conflict that existed.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)- “Obama Suggested That Mr. Romney Was Mistaken In Seeking To Keep 10,000 American Troops In Iraq. But The Obama Administration Initially Sought To Do Just That.” “President Obama suggested that Mr. Romney was mistaken in seeking to keep 10,000 American troops in Iraq. But the Obama administration initially sought to do just that – and ultimately never managed to negotiate an agreement to allow any American troops in Iraq.” (Michael Gordon and Scott Shane, “Fact Check: A Status Of Forces Agreement?” The New York Times , 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: “Obama Sought To Negotiate A Status Of Forces Agreement That Would Have Allowed United States Troops To Stay In Iraq After 2011.” “Mr. Obama sought to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement that would have allowed United States troops to stay in Iraq after 2011. Initially, the Obama administration was prepared to keep up to 10,000 troops in Iraq. Later, the Obama administration lowered the figure to about 5,000 troops – some 3,500 of which would be continuously based in the country while the remainder would periodically be rotated through. The role of the American forces would be to train Iraqi troops, patrol Iraq’s skies and help Iraqi commandos fight Al Qaeda.” (Michael Gordon and Scott Shane, “Fact Check: A Status Of Forces Agreement?” The New York Times, 10/22/12)
- THE FACTS: “Mr. Obama Sought To Negotiate A Status Of Forces Agreement That Would Have Allowed United States Troops To Stay In Iraq After 2011.” “Mr. Obama sought to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement that would have allowed United States troops to stay in Iraq after 2011. Initially, the Obama administration was prepared to keep up to 10,000 troops in Iraq. Later, the Obama administration lowered the number to about 5,000. …After the talks broke down, the Obama administration withdrew the remaining American troops in December 2011, the deadline set for withdrawing all American forces from Iraq under the Status of Forces Agreement that was concluded by George W. Bush and Mr. Mailiki in 2008.” (Scott Shane, Michael Cooper, Michael R. Gordon, Richard A. Oppel, Jr., and Sharon LaFraniere, “Looking Closely At Statements From Candidates On Foreign Policy,” The New York Times, 10/23/12)
- THE FACTS: “Obama Also Wanted To Leave Several Thousand U.S. Troops In Iraq.” “Obama also wanted to leave several thousand U.S. troops in Iraq. He tried to negotiate a status of forces agreement with the Iraqi government to allow a residual U.S. force there, but the Iraqi government refused to grant legal immunity to any remaining U.S. troops. The last troops pulled out in December 2011.” (Brooks Jackson, “Homestretch Fact-Stretchers,” FactCheck.Org, 10/22/12)
- THE FACTS: “Mitt Romney Claimed President Obama Was Looking To Keep Some Troops There As Well. … Our Verdict From What Mitt Romney Says Is Mostly True.” CNN’s JON BERMAN: “Coming up, this is the important context, on Iraq. Mitt Romney claimed that President Obama was looking to keep some troops there as well, which the president denied. …So what are the facts here? Well, Leon Panetta – the Secretary Of Defense – was negotiated to keep 3,000 to 5,000 troops in Iraq, within a so-called ‘Status of Forces’ agreement. This fell apart over the issue of whether U.S. troops would have certain immunity from prosecution. So our verdict here from what Mitt Romney says here is mostly true. The president did seem willing to leave some troops in Iraq under certain conditions, the deal just fell apart. ” CNN’s WOLF BLITZER: “That ‘Status of Forces’ agreement negotiation collapsed, as a result, all U.S. troops out of Iraq.” (CNN’s “Reality Check,” 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: NBC’s Andrea Mitchell: “So Governor Romney is right, that the administration has tried and failed to get an agreement called Status of Forces Agreement that, in fact, would have allowed a small force of troops to remain for several years in Iraq.” (NBC, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Fox News’ Chris Wallace: “I Think You Have To Give The Points To Mitt Romney On That… Romney Was Right, Obama Was Wrong. Obama Wanted And Failed To Get A Status Of Forces Agreement.” FOX NEWS’ CHRIS WALLACE: “Well, in fact, I think you have to give the points to Mitt Romney on that, provided as part of the troop withdrawal by George W. Bush and in a deal with the Iraqi Prime Minister is that there would be a status of forces agreement and that there would be a residual force there was talk of it as little as 5,000. The military wanted closer to 20,000. The person put in charge of it was Joe Biden, the Vice President, and at one point he said I will bet you my Vice Presidency, Malaki, the Iraqi prime minister will extend the status of forces agreement. But it all fell apart. They never got it, but it’s clear Romney was right, Obama was wrong. Obama wanted and failed to get a status of forces agreement.” (Fox News, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: NBC’s Richard Haass: “Even The Administration I Think Has Kept Open The Possibility Of A So Called Residual Force There.” NBC’s RICHARD HAASS: “Even the administration I think has kept open the possibility of a so called residual force there, and that was an odd counterpoint to the conversation about Iraq, where it was almost confusing. Governor Romney was saying we should have kept some forces there, and the president was talking about how good it was we had gotten all of our forces out when in fact, the United States did try to negotiate some sort of an arrangement with the Iraqis where some forces could stay. So I found all of this somewhat, somewhat odd. But again, to me the larger, the larger bottom line of the night was that on foreign policy issues actually, there was much more agreement than disagreement.” (NBC’s “2012 Presidential Debate,” 10/22/12)
LIE #7: OBAMA CLAIMED HE STANDS ON THE SIDE OF DEMOCRACY
THE CLAIM: Obama: “We Have Stood On The Side Of Democracy.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: It “Is Not True Across The Board” That America “Stood On The Side Of Democracy” As Claimed By Obama. “Mr. Obama spoke of the role the United States has played during the Arab Spring uprisings, saying, ‘We have stood on the side of democracy.’ But that is not true across the board.” (Scott Shane, Michael Cooper, Michael R. Gordon, Richard A. Oppel, Jr., and Sharon LaFraniere, “Looking Closely At Statements From Candidates On Foreign Policy,” The New York Times, 10/23/12)
LIE #8: OBAMA MISCHARACTERIZED HIS POSITION ON CHINA
THE CLAIM: “President Barack Obama Called China An ‘Adversary’ Of The United States For The First Time During Tonight’s Debate, Changing His Own Administration’s Messaging On The U.S.-China Relationship And Contradicting His Own Secretary Of State.” “President Barack Obama called China an ‘adversary’ of the United States for the first time during tonight’s debate, changing his own administration’s messaging on the U.S.-China relationship and contradicting his own secretary of state. ‘China is both an adversary, but also a potential partner,’ Obama said during the debate. ‘China is doesn’t have to be an adversary,’ Romney responded.” (Josh Rogin, “Obama Contradicts Clinton, Calls China An ‘Adversary,’” Foreign Policy‘s The Cable, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: “Secretary Of State Hillary Clinton Appears To Agree With Romney, Not Her Boss. She’s Said On Several Occasions That China Is Not An Adversary And Doesn’t Have To Become One.” “Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appears to agree with Romney, not her boss. She’s said on several occasions that China is not an adversary and doesn’t have to become one. ‘Now, some believe that China on the rise is, by definition, an adversary. To the contrary, we believe that the United States and China can benefit from and contribute to each other’s successes,’ Clinton said in one her first speeches in office in 2009.” (Josh Rogin, “Obama Contradicts Clinton, Calls China An ‘Adversary,’” Foreign Policy‘s The Cable, 10/22/12)
LIE #9: OBAMA MISREPRESENTED ROMNEY’S RECORD ON THE AUTO BAILOUT
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed That Romney Would Not “Provide Government Assistance To The U.S. Auto Industry.” OBAMA: “You were very clear that you would not provide government assistance to the U.S. auto companies even if they went through bankruptcy. You said that they could get it in the private marketplace. That wasn’t true. They would have gone through.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)- THE CLAIM: Obama Says Romney’s Bankruptcy Suggestion For The Auto Bailout Would Not Have Worked. OBAMA: “If we had taken your advice Gov. Romney about our auto industry, we’d be buying cars from China instead of selling cars to China.” ROMNEY: “I said these companies need to go through a managed bankruptcy. And in that process, they can get government help and government guarantees, but they need to go through bankruptcy to get rid of excess cost and the debt burden that they’d built up.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Vice Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: “Obama Got It Wrong…” “Obama got it wrong when he insisted over and over that Romney never advocated ‘help’ or ‘government assistance’ for automakers if they went through bankruptcy. In fact, Romney called for a “managed bankruptcy” that would include federal ‘guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing,’ which qualifies as indirect government assistance by any definition.” (“False Claims In Final Debate,” FactCheck.org, 10/23/12)
THE FACTS: “Romney Is Correct In That He Called For A ‘Managed Bankruptcy.’” “Although ‘bankrupt’ often conjures up images of liquidation, Romney is correct in that he called for a ‘managed bankruptcy.’ This is a process in which the company uses the bankruptcy code to discharge its debts, but emerges from the process a leaner, less leveraged company. Ultimately, along with getting nearly $80 billion in loans and other assistance from the Bush and Obama administrations, GM and Chrysler did go through a managed bankruptcy.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: The Auto Industry Bailout,” The Washington Post, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Time’s Michael Scherer: “Obama is wrong. Romney supported guarantees in bankruptcy. ‘The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing’” (Michael Scherer, Twitter Feed, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Romney Argued “The Federal Government Should Provide Guarantees For Post-Bankruptcy Financing And Assure Car Buyers That Their Warranties Are Not At Risk. So At Least On That Point, Again, Romney Seems To Have Had The Record Straight.” FOX NEWS’ CHRIS WALLACE: “Finally, very briefly on the auto bailout, in an editorial that Romney wrote in November of 2008, which had the headline he didn’t write it, let Detroit go bankrupt. He did argue for bankruptcy, a managed bankruptcy but at the end he said: the federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk. So at least on that point, again, Romney seems to have had the record straight.” (Fox News, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: FactCheck.org: “Obama says Romney wouldn’t have provide any gov’t assistance for automakers. But Romney did propose loan guarantees.” (FactCheck.org, Twitter Feed, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: CNBC’s Scott Cohn: “Mitt Romney Did Not Write In That 2008 Op-Ed That He Wanted To Liquidate The Auto Industry. He Did Say He Wanted It Restructured Through Bankruptcy.” CNBC’s SCOTT COHN: “Well, Mitt Romney did not write in that 2008 op-ed that he wanted to liquidate the auto industry. He did say he wanted it restructured through bankruptcy with government guarantees after bankruptcy. That is a key difference from what happened, with the government providing financing for bankruptcy.” (CNBC, 10/22/12)
LIE #10: OBAMA CLAIMED IT COST LESS TO LIBERATE LIBYA THAN AMOUNT SPENT FOR TWO WEEKS IN IRAQ
THE CLAIM: Obama: It Cost Less To Liberate Libya Than What The U.S. Spent In Two Weeks In Iraq. OBAMA: “We were able to, without putting troops on the ground, at the cost of less than what we spent in two weeks in Iraq, liberate a country that had been under the yoke of dictatorship for 40 years. Got rid of a despot who had killed Americans.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: CNN’s John Berman: “Our Verdict Here Is False On The Math.” BERMAN: “So, what are the facts here? The total cost for the first five years of the war in Iraq was 646 Billion. Which breaks down to about 700 Million for two weeks which is less than the 896 million the U.S. spent on military intervention in Libya. Our verdict here is false on the math. Obama was right that Libya is cheap compared to Iraq overall, but he exaggerated by about 200 million dollars when he compared it to two weeks in Iraq.” (CNN, 10/22/12)
LIE #11: OBAMA CLAIMED ROMNEY’S JOBS PLAN WOULD CREATE JOBS OVERSEAS
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed Gov. Romney’s Plan Will Create 800,000 Jobs Overseas. OBAMA: “If we take your advice with respect to how we change our tax codes so that companies that are in profits overseas don’t pay U.S. taxes compared to companies here that are paying taxes, now, that’s estimated to create 800,000 jobs. The problem is they won’t be here; they’ll be in places like China.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: “The Study Cited By Obama, Which Appeared In Tax Notes, Did Not Actually Study Romney’s Plan.” “Obama is quoting from one disputed study. At issue is a Romney proposal, as part of a corporate tax reform, to allow foreign profits by corporations to be exempt from domestic tax. The Simpson-Bowles deficit-reduction commission, frequently cited by Democrats and Republicans, recommended such a system in its report. ‘A territorial tax system should be adopted to help put the U.S. system in line with other countries, leveling the playing field,’ the report said. The study cited by Obama, which appeared in Tax Notes, did not actually study Romney’s plan. Moreover, it said that such a system would create 800,000 jobs overseas, but not necessarily at the expense of U.S. jobs if unemployment rates are low.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Checking The Third Presidential Debate,” The Washington Post’s Fact Checker, 10/23/12)
THE FACTS: FactCheck.org: “Obama says Romney’s plan would create 800 k jobs overseas. But study says foreign jobs could grow without costing US jobs…” (FactCheck.org, Twitter Feed, 10/22/12)
LIE #12: OBAMA CLAIMED ROMNEY SAID RUSSIA WAS AMERICA’S GREATEST GEOPOLITICAL THREAT
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed Gov. Romney Has Said That Russia Was The U.S.’ Greatest Geopolitical Threat. OBAMA: “Governor Romney, I’m glad that you recognize that al-Qaida’s a threat because a few months ago when you were asked, what’s the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia — not al-Qaida, you said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: “Romney Has Never Called Russia The No. 1 ‘Enemy’ Or ‘Threat’ To The United States, Despite Obama’s Claims On Multiple Occasions, Including Monday’s Debate.” (Josh Gerstein and Darren Samuelsohn, “Fact-Checking The Third Presidential Debate,” Politico, 10/22/12)
LIE #13: OBAMA LIED ABOUT ROMNEY’S EDUCATION RECORD
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed That The Massachusetts Scholarship Program Happened Before Romney Became Governor Of Massachusetts. OBAMA: “That happened – that happened before you came into office.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: Obama Was “Incorrect.” “Also, Obama was incorrect when he said the Adams scholarships predated Romney.” (Josh Smith, Sophie Quinton, and Olga Belogolova, “Debate Fact Check: The Third Presidential Debate Between Barack Obama And Mitt Romney,” National Journal, 10/22/12)
LIE #14: OBAMA WAS WRONG ABOUT EGYPTIANS’ OPINIONS ABOUT AMERICA
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed Opinions About The U.S. Have Improved In Egypt Under His Presidency. OBAMA: “In Egypt we stood on the side of democracy. In Libya we stood on the side of the people. And as a consequence there is no doubt that attitudes about Americans have changed.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: FactCheck.org: “Obama said attitudes of US have changed, mentioning Egypt. In Egypt, only 19% view U.S. favorably, down 3 pts since 08.” (FactCheck.org, Twitter Feed, 10/22/12)
LIE #15: OBAMA CLAIMED BAYONETS ARE OUT OF DATE FOR THE MILITARY
THE CLAIM: Obama: “Governor, We Also Have Fewer Horses And Bayonets Because The Nature Of Our Military Has Changed.” OBAMA: “I think Governor Romney maybe hasn’t spent enough time looking at how our military works. You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916 well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets because the nature of our military has changed. We have these things called aircraft carriers where planes land on them. We have the ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines.” (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)THE FACTS: “It’s The Weapon Of Choice When Shots Can’t Be Fired.” NBC’s CHUCK TODD: “Now we know there was a lot of attention to the bayonet lines. We did a little research. While it’s true the U.S. military doesn’t use bayonets as much as they did a century ago, a quick search of the Marine Corps website shows bayonets among the weapons actively used in combat. To quote from the website’s description, from 500 yards, every marine is accurate with a rifle, attach the OKC-3S bayonet, and that weapon becomes just as effective in close combat situations and Savannah, the Marine Corps website adds, it’s the weapon of choice when shots can’t be fired.” (NBC’s ” The Today Show,” 10/23/12)
THE FACTS: Fox News’ Chris Wallace: “The Marines Still Use Bayonets, So It May Not Be Clear Who Doesn’t Understand What The Military Currently Uses.” FOX NEWS’ CHRIS WALLACE: “Well, as it turns out, in the middle of the debate, after he heard this, a marine tweeted Fox News and said: the Marines still use bayonets, so it may not be clear who doesn’t understand what the Military currently uses.” (Fox News, 10/22/12)